Grief World Cup - 2014/07/07 [CANCELLED]

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Last edited by YoPlixBoy25 on Sun 14 May - 15:56; edited 30 times in total

Yoplix....did you read the message? I repeat my team cause i'm seeing that you have not changed anything.. ZG TEAM:
-Cesc0077Tv(C)
-elnavarro_ksa
-dachevi96(H)
-mrla600
-XxABREPUERTASxX(S)
Country: Spain

Bustacall,

FlopSum_One (KushOfTheDead/ kingsize) lives in Netherlands and played for this country from the begining (Netherlands flag). he needs to show me its identity card if he has a double nationality.

Zombieplayer10 needs to create an account here also, he's German or English?

And about the team name, mistake here :

Bustacall wrote:

Team name: Germany

Thanks.

Last edited by YoPlixBoy25 on Tue 8 Jul - 14:08; edited 2 times in total

The correction is done elnavarro !   

Don't forget, your teammates need to create an account + to post a message here. 

bellidez, you forgot the Spt Team.

No yoplix...jugimaxESP isn't in my team,quit jugimaxESP and put dachevi96(H),Cesc0077Tv only captain but not host Cesc0077Tv(C)dachevi96(H) .

ups yes yoplix y forget, i´m going to ask spt

Yoplix,my teammate XxABREPUERTASxX don't want to create an absolutegrief account so..erase him from my team,then we haven't got substitutes at the moment.

Beast punishers finally won´t play the tournament

SPT team:

SPT23 (C)
Jugimax_ESP (H)
WOLF_1_9_8_5
zomber_acboke
s-piogen (S)

Yoplix je pense que tu vas trop loin lorsque tu veux une preuve de nationalité et quils se registrent au site web obligatoirement pour quils puissent jouer ce tournoi ci. À mon avis Cest trop de chose que tu demandes et certains joueurs ne le feront pas ( des joueurs que je connais ) ils me disent que test fou xD

C'est le seul moyen que j'ai de vérifier si les joueurs sont francs à propos de leur nationalité. Car je sais d'avance que si je ne suis pas strict avec ce paramètre, cela sera prit à la légère et des joueurs qui ne sont pas de la même nationalité joueront ensemble ce qui n'est pas dans le principe d'une coupe du monde. Je veux minimiser la fraude au maximum et je n'ai pas trouvé d'autres moyens pour le moment. Tu as d'autres solutions à proposer pour vérifier? La géolocalisation par IP et FAI est plutôt fiable en plus du fait que je peux détecter les proxy.

Je suis fou parce que je demande simplement à chaque joueurs de créer un compte de et confirmer par message son pays et sa team? C'est trop de chose de prendre 5 minutes de son temps pour faire ça alors que moi je consacre bien plus de temps pour l'animation de la Lutte. Il faut aussi mettre du sien un moment donné. Des joueurs sont d'accord pour jouer un tournoi sur un site web mais pas d'accord pour créer un compte dessus, pourquoi ?

Il fallait aussi créer un compte sur http://www.eurogamersonline.com/ pour jouer et cela n'avait choqué personne.

yoplixboy , flopsum one is german and he never ever said one word about that he is dutch . he is using the dutch flag because he lives in this country and because it looks better . he has nno double identity . so a guy who was born in germany cant play for germany but a guy who was born in spain can play for england ? legit !!! so i think i just put a french flag on and play for france

so i think i just put a french flag on and play for france

No Priceless, I look firstly the Internet Service Provider (ISP) and the IP Adress, and I also can find a Proxy Server if someone uses it to cheat. So with this information, I can check the current location of the player. This is a good proof. The flag is just an indicative information, not a proof.

We must play for the country from the nationality (where we live), not from the origin (where we were born) of where we go sometimes for the work.

• Kush was born in Germany (origin) but if he lives now in the Netherlands (nationality), he must play for the Netherlands.
  
• jmarley was born in Spain (origin) but lives now in the UK (nationality), so he must for the UK.
  
• DalToN_RaGeuX travels often in France, plays always with French players but he lives in Switzerland (nationality), so he must play for Switzerland, etc..
  
• Academy travels often in France, plays always with French players but he lives in Belgium (nationality), so he must play for Belgium, etc..
  
• QOADRICORN plays with US players, has Latino American origins but he lives in Canada (nationality), so he must play for Canada, etc..
  

We must understand this difference origin / nationality. If I leave the choice for everybody, some will select the country from the origin. It was in the suggestions from the begining, why wait the start of the tournament to be not agree now?

If KushofTheDead wants to play for Germany, he needs to show me that he has the German nationality (identity card), because the Internet informations about him show me he lives more often in the Netherland rather than Germany.

my team cant understand ur logic at all. a german guy has to play for the netherlands because he lives there ??? the examples u showed us have nothing to do with the subject , if someone plays with people or travels in another country has nothing to do with his nationality . and also if someone lives in the netherlands than it doesent mean that he has dutch nationality .karim benzema lives in spain so he has spanish nationality ? no he doesnt . that all makes no sense

Benzema is a particular case for the Soccer players (residence permit), because he lives in Spain for its club (work), he has Algerian origins and he plays for France (nationality).

I undertsand that you say; the particular cases for the persons who live in another country a long time for the work or a touristic travel, even if 80% of person who live in a country have and need to have the nationality of it.

Ok so If you confirm that Kush is German (nationality) and not Dutch, he can play with you.  
It was just pity because he plays before for Dutch teams before (OfTheDead community before FlopSum) so I though he was Dutch, and we need also Dutch team for the competition

Last edited by YoPlixBoy25 on Thu 10 Jul - 13:46; edited 1 time in total

I admit, as you given me a good exemple of the particular case who I cannot use the current location to confirm the nationality of someone, my logic has no sense to be general effectively (there are other particular cases like Kush).

But how I can do to check the nationality of someone finaly? All the same no need to ask to show me the identity card everytime...? So, do I need yet to ask everybody to create an account here finally to check the internet location informations ? We can trust someone only by its words if he say that this country is it nationality, no other ways to check if he lies or not.

you could make it easier if you would allow the people only to play for their real country which is where theyre born . flopsum one dont even wanna play for the netherlands because he is german. what you should do is check if players who live in another country then the country where their were born really have a proof that the country gave them their nationality because it is not so easy to get . for exsmple you should check if england gave jmarley english nationality. because holland gave flopsum one not the dutch nationality

i got a british pasport so i am english natinality

yoplix erase XxABREPUERTASxX from my team plz